Association has rules and that rules are or could be curtailing someone's rights.
And I thought blogging is a self-expression medium. The attempt of some groups to have a national bloggers’ association is rubbish. Associations are always bounded by rules and by rules come restrictions. Blogging has become an individuals’ expression and once you bound it that means you are curtailing someone’s freedom. Whoever thought of that has the mind of a politician or an autocrat.
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Seryoso!! Oh well the shit hits the fan.
Siguro part pa din ito ng feudal system na minana natin sa mga nanakop sa atin..
In a feudal system kasi, magkakaroon ng chance ang mga pathetic at artless and not to mention tasteless na blogger
Oh well sabagay lahat ng status seeker at social climber na blogger will prefer an association para magkaroon sila ng game.
at di pa ako tapos.. kung sino man ang nakaisip ng idea ito.. congrats! you brought stupidness to a whole new level of low.
i read it in one of yahoo philippines feature stories. i should have posted the link. hehehe
pero i think hindi magpu-push through iyan. kung mangyayari man, tama ka kung sino ang magkaka-interes na sumali diyan. :)
If there's an association, is there a concrete fact that it will be compulsory? I guess each Blogger has the choice to be a member or not. And if one chooses to, then absolutely, he must be under the rules. I know some Bloggers who made their own group. The group has rules. And each of them hold high respect on those rules.
And it would help if there's a link here. For this post not to arouse incorrect perception for the planned Associaion for Bloggers. There are always to sides of a coin.
@dabo inherited feudalist from ages ago eh? Then what do you call the below quoted lines from you?
"magkakaroon ng chance ang mga pathetic at artless and not to mention tasteless na blogger... Oh well sabagay lahat ng status seeker at social climber na blogger will prefer an association para magkaroon sila ng game."
Blogging is a free game. It's not just for bloggers with taste and with art.
@Anonymous, i am not particular whether the membership to this conceived idea is compulsory or not. i am more interested on what happens if one becomes a member, which is u lose some of ur rights, ur individuality because of the rules.
i did some backtracking to locate the link but it was not already in yahoo's features. but u can always "google it" as what smart internet user would usually do.
@Anon:
I never categorically denied that I AM exempted sa feudalist mindset.
I call my statement my the shit that hit faces.
@Trip It's more likely hat it would not be compulsary. If it is, then a smart internet user would have an option not to be a member. Make an association, so be it... So what? They have the right to as each one of us have the right to blog.
@dabo then i think it is not in your position to criticize.
@trip: yep yep.. dapat pinost mo.
i don't mean to single out people,
but then it is the person who will classify himself whether kung sya ay social climber, status seeker, artless, pathetic and tasteless?
the law of his own nature should be the absolute law of his being and even for the whole world, and not some definition dictated by a soul like me
@anon: I am in the position to criticize, because I can.
@dabo then you're exbiting forms of hypocrisy.
@anon:
okay na lost na ako.. what are the different forms of hypocrisy ba according to you and lessoned you learned in life?
@Anonymous. u absolutely don't get the point of this entry, dont u? :)
anyway, everyone has the right, the choice, the position to criticise and to air his/her views.
just air urs. we would listen. and also ... maybe u can avoid attacking the author. ;)
@dabo as Trip said, "u can always "google it" as what smart internet user would usually do."
@anon:
hay nasad ako. anon, i'm up for debate right now hehe.. sorta have an extra dosage of sugar two hours ago.
now, kaya ko tinatanong kung ano ang iba't ibang uri ng hypocrisy sa iyo according sa iyo and to you only.
I won't label myself any form of hypocrisy when I can change my own rules about myself and everything.
I can call anyone artless, tastless and pathetic in one combo of a line because simply I can. But nonetheless, they have the same RIGHT to do that to me. Pero here's the thing: I don't have to believe him because I got my own image of pathetic, tastless and artless ME.
The only bad thing about "because I can" attitude is the reckless dart that might burst someone's bubbles.
But then if they are convince enough I am shitty and senseless, they can simply moved on unless tinamaan sila.
And I've seen enough status seeker in internet and social networking site.
and having an organization is a chance for them to leverage themselves a little up...
I'm not against it formation but I will certainly enjoy how would they rub each others ego and sucking each other toe nails..
@dabo Watch your grammar boy... #burstingonesbubbles. I believe you, you have an image of a pathetic YOU.
@Anon: I think any sane person whould have an image of pathetic himself hehe
I'm glad your getting my point
Hintayin mo kung pano ako magsalita ng English hehe di lang grammar pati spelling
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uhmm di ka na ba makikipagdebate about feudalist mindset?
as much as i would like to get more comments on my entry, i surely would want a healthy one. please avoid mud-slinging since i think we do not know each other personally here. judging each other based solely from the comments each one made is not conclusive of the entire person.
The association for bloggers is designed actually for kids and newbie bloggers desiring recognition and acceptance. We all know, people want to belong so hayun, they will make a blogger association to create a distinction between the celebrities and the wannabies.
Trust me, when this blogger association starts running, they'd contact advertisers, promoters and endorsers para sa kanila makipagusap. Agenda setting kumbaga. Google has become a very powerful tool these days, make it better by letting a single group of bloggers monopolize the opinions of everyone.
@Anon. Balls man, reveal yourself.
Sorry for the 'mud-slinging'. I just don't like @dabo's comments. The tone... uggh!! As if he is... Oh well. 'Nuff said.
@Anon: As if I am..what? ...uhmm lemme guess (let me ba dapat)... the Lady Gaga of Blogging
Doing the expected in an unexpected way... Oh my gosh!!!
Lugi nga ako sa iyo, you can tell a lot of things about me, pero ikaw anonymous pa din. Kaya you resorted to a very primitive trick.
"Uggh!" all you want pero I stick pa din feudal system theory ko and how it will supplement or provide a venue for social climbing and status seeking.
It is not my fault kung i-relate ko ang post na ito in society in general and applied it in blogging. An association will be economically viable for different motives. Naging particular lang ako sa, hay heto na naman, social climber.
My only fault probably is the use of pathetic, artless and tasteless ek ek. But then, patibayan na lang yan ng self-concept. It is obvious na insecure ang tamaan. That is a solid statement.
I didn't pinpoint to anyone, that is reserve to private conversations and not in public domain.
About my tone, I know there are better ways to express a point.. but I don't use kids gloves to handle matters that I can relate to frailties of this society - lalong lalo ang suscepbility ng tao to qualify his own existence according to a institution.
Hayan anon na din ako.
Yours truly,
Mother Monster
ay nakalimutan ko maglog out.
ahahahahaha mga kuya... may ganyan sa facebook... tapos we were invited to join (automatically kaya naloka lang ang mga Coffeebabies...
but it's really addictive... we're having great laughs about their shameless endorsements of blog posts... asking people to read and like them, and comment.... nakakaloka...
how desperate could you get? hahahaha
just in case, hindi naman siguro 'yan mandatory.
I, too, am against it.
i wouldn't join that association but i'd respect those people who would... if they think its more fun being bound by rules of expressing themselves then i'll let them be. but me, hell no.
http://www.influentialblogger.net/2011/03/frequently-asked-questions-national.html
FAQs on the blogger's association
@Anonymous, i went through the FAQs but it still did not change my position on the nature of associations vis-a-vis nature of blogging. nevertheless, good luck to the bloggers who would patronize it. :)
your anonimity likewise doesnt help IF u r promoting the association.
Inherently, associations do preclude a sense of control and regulation. It is in this very precept that they establish order upon an apparently disparate and anarchical situation and practice. However, it becomes counter-intuitive to form one when the medium in question has freedom of expression as one of its inherent truisms. If the opinion presented is digressive from the reader's own, one can simply choose not to peruse it.
An association only becomes a requisite and detrimental when questions of credibility, legitimacy and acknowledgement are placed in the foreground. However, in the case of blogging, all three are negated by the nature of the platform. Allow me to go expound on this here.
Credibility is tantamount when the platform in question has the capacity to affect rapid, unquestionably massive changes in societal beliefs and the opinions of the general public. Although in itself is not in its infancy, we have to bank on the fact the people have their own free will, their own minds on whether or not to agree.
Credibility requires specialization, that the public have little or no critical comprehension of certain things that it warrants another body to look to for guidance, valuation and censorship. For example, consumer electronics. People can read reviews about these from various sources, but there are few who do have credible technical insight to provide neutral and comprehensive reviews.
There is no monopoly of opinion on the web. Anyone can choose to express their own thoughts on any given topic. But the public would know better to listen to TechPinas' review of a laptop model, than say the ramblings of a housewife befuddled by her son's new gadget.
Legitimate information is hard to contest online. Sources are often too vague and shifty to be able to properly cross-reference them. Sources are being put up and taken down daily, and it would always be best to seek information from reliable and established portals such as media and journalistic portals. Although, even these sometimes fall prey to sensationalism and misquotation.
Acknowledgement come from the local community, and for the Philippines we have the annual Web Awards for that. The blogging community is not too specialized and expansive to warrant an additional, specific governing body for its valuation and recognition.
It seems to be, the question of forming an association maybe partly inspired by the big hoopla over Margaux Salcedo's expose on the "Big Bad Blogger" issue. If by objective of such an association is to prevent such an incident to occur again, shouldn't we be empowering the businesses instead? Strengthening their voice online, and seeking ways to properly represent themselves in the online market?
Free will, that's all.
Why try to fix something that is not broken? By implementing safeguards for an onion-skinned few? The question here is not whether the would-be members of the association are credible, legitimate and recognized (let's face there will always be bad apples in every bunch), but whether or not the association is called for at all.
We have to ask ourselves here, who do we give our trust to? The unbridled, candid and honest voice of a free community, or the censored, tactful and non-transparent ruminations of a few?
Elitism and exclusivity is not the game here. Free speech is.
Ah, an SEO's dream come true. =)
I was going to add a few things but Red covered them all, so mag-aagree na lang ako.
Tama, even if it's not mandatory, an organization like that can easily develop influence over the blogging community. And it seems many bloggers don't trust anyone to have that much influence over the community. The founders seem to have good intentions, but yeah, we all know where that COULD lead.
Pero shet, SEO dream come true talaga to. Imagine the traffic they're getting from all this brouhaha.
i would just like to reiterate here that im not against with bloggers joining this association. i was just trying to hint or imply what possibly are the motives of the people who wish to create it and the profiles of the bloggers who are likely to join. nonetheless, as per discussion here and my further reading about this association, it turns out that this is a capitalist endeavor after all.
sad, but it seems that filipino culture hasn't made much progressive change through the years.
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